Friday, January 22nd, 2010 | Author: admin
I have seen this course offered at two churches. When I looked into it, I noticed that Dave Ramsey promotes tithing. Well here is a layout of what he says about it. When I find his contact information, I will be sure to contact him personally.
As Christians, this tithing monster needs to be put to death. The majority of believers do not do it, WHY?
Well the pro-tithers will accuse you of being selfish. Great starter for getting one to tithe, GUILT AND FALSE ACCUSATION.
Category: Churchianity is Expensive
Dave Ramsey has a program called Financial Peace University. In his message to the church, he promotes the concept of tithing. Please read his explanation, and ask yourself these questions.
1.) What is missing from his explanation?
2.) Why give advice on something, but not explain it thoroughly. Rather than do the right thing, he wants to give you cliches about the 10% deal. Here’s a couple of PSYCHOLOGICALLY LACED POISION from his site,
“So why does He ask us to give 10% to Him? Tithing was created for our benefit. It is to teach us how to keep God first in our lives and how to be unselfish people.”
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God commanded the Jews who farmed and raised animals to tithe.
“The tithe, which is a scriptural mandate, was not instituted for God’s benefit because He already has all the money He needs. He does not need our money.”
He calls it a scriptural mandate, but does not explain how it is so. When did God ever NEED MONEY? These are the kind of statements being made to convince people that tithing is legitimate church doctrine.
http://www.daveramsey.com/article/daves-advice-on-tithing-and-giving/lifeandmoney_church/
Now see, before I could even finish my post, I found something else more diabolical.
A person asked Dave this question,
“On Top Of Tithing
Dave tells Annie the difference between an offering and tithing, and why she should do both as a Christian.
QUESTION: Annie asks if it’s all right to give to other organizations besides churches. Dave talks about the distinction between giving and tithing, and why she should do plenty of both.
ANSWER: Certainly you should. You need to give to a lot of things. As a Christian, we’re called to tithe, which means a tenth of your income to your local church, before you do anything else. Anything after that is considered an offering, and my wife and I do those over and above our tithe. You should find things near and dear to your heart and support them.”
http://www.daveramsey.com/index.cfm?event=askdave/&intContentItemId=11163&ictid=church3
Please listen to the audio. Notice his emphasis on the word Tiiiithe.
What’s the problem here? Where does he get the information that one should give a tithe your local church (i.e. the one you belong to). He gets in from the notoriously and deceptively use of Malachi 3:8-12. Bring tithes into the storehouse…. STOREHOUSE IS NOT YOUR LOCAL CHURCH.
By the way, tithes were given to LEVITES. They don’t exist anymore……….. The LEVITES then GAVE TITHES TO THE AARONIC PRIESTS……… They don’t exist anymore either.
NOWHERE does it say to tithe your income in the Bible. Yet, he calls tithing a biblical mandate.
I am not saying that he gives bad financial advice, but I believe Mr. Ramsey should study tithing again. In all honesty, adn anyone correct me if I am wrong, but there is only ONE PLACE in all of the New Testament (After Jesus’ Death on the Cross) that mentions Tithing and that is Hebrews 7. If you read Hebrews 7, it’s not hard to see that Tithing is DEAD.
This is heroic work. Thanks, LOl. Though your questions were ignored, you have demonstrated what true accountability means.
Tithing is mandated by scripture in the New Testament Mathew 23:23 Jesus tells the Pharisees to continue to tithe, but there are more important issues such as faithfulness
The New Testament does not actually begin until Jesus’ death.
Hebrews 9:15-18
15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
So Ed, Jesus commanded “the Pharisees” to tithe. Jews were the only ones to tithe, and the only TRUE New Testament scripture on tithing in Hebrews 7 where it declares tithing, DEAD.
Great Article
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119576921737201375.html
As far as Dave Ramsey’s advice on being debt free, SECOND TO NONE!!!!!!!!!!